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January 2006
  • Clarification of Alamo Information on Web Site
    Let me just pass along a couple of things about your Alamo information.

    First, The Alamo is NOT the most popular tourist attraction or most visited site in Texas. It is No. 2. The San Antonio River Walk, which is open 24 hours a day (vs 8-5 at the Alamo) attracts about twice as many visitors as The Alamo, according to a comprehensive and extensive professional visitor survey done by the San Antonio Convention and Visitors Bureau and the findings of the Texas Economic Development office in Austin.

    The Texas Department of Transportation and the Texas Department of Tourism information saying the Alamo is the No. 1 attraction is based on surveys done at the tourist information centers just inside the state's borders where people coming into the state may stop and indicate where they plan to go. It is completely random and informal and not at all scientific. The San Antonio visitor survey done at the airport, downtown tourism locations and street interviews included detailed questions lasting about 10-15 minutes and even telephone followups after visitors returned home to ask if they visited other sites after being interviewed and why, etc.

    While the numbers are now a bit dated, the city visitor survey concluded that 3.1 million people a year visit the Alamo (actually go on the grounds or into the buildings vs. walking up to it outside after closing time) and that more than 6 million visitors a year go onto the downtown River Walk (not counting locals who go there with visitors or on a regular basis).

    The Daughters of the Republic of Texas, in fact, have people with mechanical head counters at the door who click each and every visitor who enters the shrine. The DRT's actual head count and the extrapolated numbers from the city's survey professionals had virtually identical numbers for visitors to the Alamo. Tourism experts in San Antonio have maintained for at least 20 years that the River Walk draws more people than the Alamo. It attracts more visitors every year than the entire State of Hawaii.

    As for the name Alamo, yes it is Spanish for cottonwood, but the name was given to Mission San Antonio in 1802 when a cavalry unit was sent here to reinforce the military garrison and La Segunda Compañía Volante de San Jose y Santiago del Alamo de Parras (The Second Flying Company of San Jose y Santiago del Alamo de Parras) in Coahuila took up residence in the closed mission complex and nicknamed it after their hometown.

    That is where the name came from. There is no evidence there were ever any cottonwood trees around the Alamo. Records show the buildings were referred to as The Alamo after the cavalry unit from Alamo de Parras arrived and moved into the mission compound.

    By the way, it is Alamo de Parras (not Pamas as you have it) and a "flying company" is a light, high-speed cavalry attack unit, they do not actually fly.

    The cavalry unit at the Alamo, by the way, remained part of the official military presence in San Antonio through the transition from Spanish to Mexican governments and ended its official duties only on June 4, 1836, when Col. Juan Seguin, commander of the only Tejano company to fight in the Battle of San Jacinto, returned to San Antonio after the victory at San Jacinto to take possession of the city and accept the surrender of the Mexican garrison, including the Flying Company still stationed at The Alamo. - DAVID ANTHONY RICHELIEU, San Antonio 78205, Same ZiPCode as The Alamo, January 29, 2006

  • Pumpville Texas
    Pumpville has a fairly significant appearance in Cormac McCarthy's novel "All the Pretty Horses." It's the last village in the U.S. that the two main characters in the story visit before crossing over into Mexico, where the majority of the book takes place. Jamie Barnes, Montgomery TX, January 28, 2006


  • Onalaska article
    I read with great interest Bob Bowman's article, "The Four Towns of Onalaska." It was enjoyable reading.

    I am originally from Onalaska, Wisconsin. It might be a nice addition to the article if Mr. Bowman would include the information that the town name "Onalaska" originally came from the poem, "The Pleasures of Hope" by Scottish poet, Thomas Campbell. Mr. Campbell's poems were very popular in American grade schools in the mid-1800s. Thomas G. Rowe, one of the men who platted Onalaska, Wisconsin, carried a copy of Mr. Campbell's poems around with him on his adventures. He decided to name his new townsite, "Oonalaska" (the original spelling Campbell used in his poem) but then decided to drop the extra "o" at the suggestion of his good friend, Harvey Hubbard, an attorney and later, a La Crosse County, Wisconsin judge. The then "village" of Onalaska was founded in 1851, many years before Mr. Carlisle owned his sawmill in the original Onalaska of the lower 48 states. Onalaska was a lumbering community from the start. It was on the Black River, whose watershed was once a great "pinery" of white pine. Mr. Carlisle owned a mill near the end of Onalaska, Wisconsin's heyday as a lumbering center. He is not considered a town founder in Wisconsin's Onalaska -- the town was founded many years before he came on the scene.

    Thomas Campbell is buried in Poets' Corner, Westminster Abbey, England. The famous "wolf couplet" that mentions "Oonalaska" is inscribed on his tombstone. By the way, of course he made a mistake when associating wolves to Unalaska Island -- there hasn't been any wolves there since the last ice age. Campbell also admitted, before his death, that he borrowed the wolf couplet from another poem, a common practice at the time. The poem was originally published in 1799, when Mr. Campbell was only 21 years old. - George Tabbert, now residing in Winona, Minnesota, January 28, 2006


  • Chatmas Theatre, Hearne Texas
    The picture you show as the Chatmas Theatre is not the Chatmas. The one you show is actually west of the Chatmas. This was the Mexican theatre, the Queen.

    The Chatmas was where the Guy Chandler Park is now. They have a Veteran's Memorial there.

    I grew up in Calvert, lived there a while as an adult, and taught in Hearne for many years. I spent a lot of happy hours in the Eloia in Calvert and the Chatmas in Hearne, with trips to the drugstore afterward.

    The night the Chatmas burned, we could see the glow in the sky from Calvert. We were all sad that it was not rebuilt. So, there is nothing left of the Chatmas.

    You might contact the "Hearne Democrat" for a picture of the two theatres in Hearne, when they were in good shape. Someone in Hearne, maybe the library, might have a picture to share.

    There was also a drive-in theatre in Hearne. It was located where the motels are just north of Hearne on Highway 6, and that triangle formed where the Cameron Highway goes past the Fireman's Hall.

    An Austin artist, Larry Willcott, I believe is his name, has a lovely watercolor of the Eloia in Calvert. All that is missing is movie posters in the display cases, the popcorn machine, and Miss Eloise in the ticket booth, Carl standing by the popcorn machine, and their son in his A&M uniform selling popcorn. (They didn't sell drinks and candy at the Eloia. But, the Chatmas had a glistening candy counter inside.) Hope this helps. Check with some oldtimers to be sure you have the right buildings. Some of the newcomers don't know. - Cecelia Conitz Heinrich, January 28, 2006


  • The Big Tree
    From the Lamar Peninsula. Thought you might like this. - Ken Rudine, January 27, 2006 (See photo)

  • Sparenberg, Texas
    The correct spelling is Sparenberg with an 'e' not Sparenburg with a 'u' The difference between the two is German vs British spelling (the family name is German in origin) Thank you. - James Sparenberg, January 25, 2006

  • Mobeetie, Texas
    I grew up in Pampa, Texas, about 20 miles from Mobeetie in the 1950s and 60s. I seem to recall many years ago hearing a story told by Texas writer, free speech hero, and humorist, John Henry Faulk, about how Mobeetie was named. In the story as told by John Henry, the citizens wanted to name the town Sweetwater but the name was already taken by another Texas town. Efforts to name the town Sweetwater in Spanish were to no avail because 'Agua Dulce' was already a town down in the Texas Coastal Bend. The citizens decided to name the town Sweetwater in the Cheyene language because Cheyene Indians worked and lived at Fort Elliot. So a man was sent to Fort Elliot to ask what is the Cheyene word for Sweetwater. The Indian, who was a Cheyene Indian Scout chuckled and said, "Mobeetie." It was about two years later when the citizens of Mobeetie found out why the Indian had chuckled when providing the translation. According to the story told John Henry, it turns out that "Mobeetie" in Cheyene means "buffalo dung". Anyway, that is how I remember the story.

    Work for the Lord---the retirement is out of this world! - Rev. Carl W. Clark Driftwood United Methodist Church, Driftwood, Texas, January 24, 2006

  • Sterling City, Texas
    I was born and raised in Sterling City. In 1974 I was one of the last babies to be delivered by Dr. Swan in the hospital there.

    I just wanted to let y'all know that one building [in your coverage] has been left out. That would be the landmark on main street catercorner from the courthouse and the jail. That building has been there forever. It was a motel at one time and a bank and is supposed to be haunted. It was redone to be a restaurant then the ownership changed and it was reopened up as a restaurant again and again. I remember hearing about it being haunted more than once. I thought that y'all would like [to share] that little tidbit - Debra Wimberly, former Sterling Citizen, January 19, 2006


  • Fayetteville, Texas
    Fayetteville Cemetery

    I've been looking through your website and would like to visit some of the places described. Do you have GPS coordinates for the Fayetteville Cemetery? I haven't been able to turn up a description for the location so far. It would be helpful to publish GPS coordinates for reference, since many people these days either have them in the car or use handheld units while out exploring new places. Your site has been quite interesting -- I've been laid up in bed with a rather nasty bug, and it's helped to distract me from feeling quite so miserable. Planning trips to some of the historic cemeteries has been a good diversion. Thank you for any assistance you could offer. - Sincerely, Kim Stephens, January 17, 2006

  • Brenham, Texas
    Yellow Fever Cemetery Brenham, Texas
    We made a trip to Yellow Fever Cemetery in Brenham Texas this morning using the directions on the web site, the directions need to be changed some, they have closed part of the Old Masonic Road off that goes behind the new housing area that has been built next to the cemetery.

    Better directions should be take Highway 36 north turn on Dupree Drive take first left which will be Old Masonic Drive and cemetery is just to the right.

    I must say the cemetery was in horrible shape they have started cleaning a small part of it but I think they may be just destroying what is left of the headstones. I do hope some one can take the time to go in there and fix the remaining headstone without causing more damage. - Dawna Carlton, January 15, 2006

  • Cool, Texas
    I am a Coolite and I came across your website a couple of days ago. I am putting together some pictures and info about our beautiful town to send you. I need to take a couple of pictures and then I'll send what I know about some of the things Cool has within its city limits. Thanks for a great website! - Cindy Serrano, Cool, Texas, January 15, 2006

  • New Sweden Church
    A co-worker of mine was unfamiliar with the New Sweden church and this article described and illustrated it very nicely. About the Readers Comments additions at the bottom of the page, a reader described the "Amana" school building near Kimbro, an old 2 room school. It actually “Manda” and my father also attended classes there as a boy. I think it was used in a movie in the 1980’s, the Robert Redford, Waldo Pepper, or something like that. Very nice website, really enjoyed it. - Mark Thompson, January 13, 2006

  • Maypearl Texas
    You said you didn't know what people of Maypearl called them says but your guess was Maypearlers. Well we call ourselves Maypearlians. - Niki Larson of Maypearl
    , January 12, 2006

  • MARFA STORE
    YOUR STORE FRONT GOT OUR ATTENTION THIS LAST FRIDAY NIGHT AS WE HEADED INTO MARFA TO SEE THE LIGHTS...WE STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND TOOK A PICTURE OF YOUR PRADA SHOE STORE..AND THOUGHT WE SAW ALIENS WEARING YOUR SHOES INSIDE ONE SMALL ALIEN FIGURE LOOKED TO BE CARRING A PRADA HANDBAG...WHEN I CHECKED MY CAMERA LATER TO VIEW THOSE PICTURES THEY WERE GONE EXCEPT FOR THE ONE PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE STORE FROM THE HIGHWAY..YOUR PRODUCTS ARE NOW KNOWN THRU OUT THE GALAXY....WE LOVED THE STORE AND WONDERED WHERE THE GAS STATION WENT MAYBE NEXT TRIP WE'LL SHOP YOUR STORE DURING REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS....THANK YOU THE KLOCK FAMILY FROM FARMINGTON NM, January 08, 2006

  • Graham Texas
    I was surfing the net this afternoon and found your website. I was looking at the photo of the National Theater in Graham and the caption “One of the two theater buildings on the square in Graham”. Actually there is a third. I believe it was called The Palace. The other theater is the Leon. The Palace is located north of The National about 2/3 of the distance between it and the Leon. I don’t know what the building is now but it was remodeled and opened as a Whites Auto Store some time in the late 1950s, approx. The original sloping floor was leveled by a lumber false floor built over the concrete. I don’t know why all three theaters are in the same block. Maybe it was the natural slope that more easily accommodated the theater seating. The photo is of the west side of the square, looking west, and the slope is toward the rear of these buildings.

    If you ever go to Graham, walk around behind the National and look at the north side of the theater building near the rear. You will see a large 8’ diameter (approx) circle in the brick. That is where the windmill fan was installed to air condition the theater. I understand that the fan was electrically powered and there was a large intake covered by evaporative cooler padding, and this created an early evaporative cooler, sort of.

    Incidentally, I was born (11-08-1946) and raised in Graham. I attended 12 grades of public school. I moved away for the last time in 1977. Isn’t this silly. I can’t remember breakfast but I do remember something that happened 45 years ago. - Don Wignall, Carrollton, TX, January 07, 2006

  • Rising Star Texas
    My grandmother had the 1st. set of twins born there. I think in Eastland County, but not sure. One was named after Truman Higginbotham White and the other was named after the other owner. Truman H. White and his brother who died at 18mo. Marshall and Mary White, parents. Grand-daddy White had a wood leg he had made after he got it caught in a peanut thrasher. The Store brought 2 sets of cribs, highchairs, and chester-drawers that were made of beautiful wood. One set for each boy. It was a gift. My parents farmed, then moved to oil field work, then back to "Star ", Cleo "Shook" and Howard White. Bet if you ask the old people they can really give you stories about Daddy. I am also 1st cousin to the Longs. Aunt Rene " Rieghly Long's wife," and Aunt Claudia May "Bill Gardner's Wife" were Mom's sisters. Aunt Sue Gardner as ya'll called her. You may not even want to know any of that. But Thanks anyway, Patsy Nixon, January 07, 2006

  • Topsey Texas
    My twin brother and I were born in Topsey in 1936 (at home). We attended the old school there and also attended the Baptist Church. My grandfather, Solon Saunders Vardiman, preached there and their home was on the same road with the church. I remember Mr. Jeffrey's old store. Daddy would take us to get a cold soda packed down in a tub of ice. - Mary Gail Cowan Leming, January 07, 2006

  • Vernon Texas - Beware of Gas Prices in Vernon
    Fill your tank before coming to Vernon. Gas prices in Vernon now is higher than California! - Henry W. Yao, January 06, 2006

  • Luling Texas - Subject: Sarg Records
    My name is Graham C. Marshall and I live in East Yorkshire, England. For a brief period in the seventies I corresponded with Charlie Fitch of Sarg Records. Does anyone know anything about him? Is he still alive? I should be very grateful if you could find someone who could enlighten me. Thanks, Graham, January 05, 2006

  • Vernon Texas - Subject: Kramer's studio
    I found numerous old, old photos left by my Grandmother, they were developed at Kramer Studio in Vernon, Texas. Can you tell me if, by some miracle, it's still in business or what may have happened to it? Thanks, Margie Foster, OKC, January 05, 2006

  • Dimmitt Texas
    I think I got the whole town in this image. While this doesn't show much of Dimmitt, it represents how I see my hometown. Thanks for your work on the website. - Bryan Mayfield, January 02, 2006

  • Carthage Texas -
    Letter from a founder's descendant:
    Andy Anderson of Cartage wrote to correct an error and to extend a cordial invitation to visit Carthage. "Jonathon ANDERSON not Allison, donated the 100 acres of land. Jonathan "Old Shelby" Anderson was my Great-Great Grandfather [who is now buried] at the old plantaion site, where the Anderson cemetery now stands. He out-lived three wives. They are buried north & south and he is buried at their feet, east & west." Mr. Anderson also mentions that the recently constructed Veterans Memorial and the Texas Country Music Hall of Fame Museum should be included under Carthage attractions. - Editor, January 2, 2006
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